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I Miriam Jane chromer wife of Howard

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chromer

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wish voluntarily to state that on the

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afternoon of Monday 12th of March 1888

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at Park Lodge Q green I murdered one

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Josiah peral photographic assistant in

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my husband's

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employment I added potassium cyanide to

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a decanter of why knowing that he was

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likely to drink from it and be fatally

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poisoned my reason for committing this

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act was that for a period of several

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months Josiah P had subjected me to

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Blackmail in the summer of 1882 I was

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was 20 years of age living at my family

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home in

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Hamstead we were members of the Highgate

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literary and artistic

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Society one day I injudiciously agreed

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to take part with two friends in some

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photographic

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sittings the lady who affected the

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arrangement was dartha davant a leading

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member of the

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society we had been advised that the

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photographs were to be used for a

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painting to be exhibited at the Royal

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Academy this was not the truth we were

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asked to adopt various Grecian style

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poses for which we wore dous

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clothing 3 years later in September 1885

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I married and left hamster to live in

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Q my husband Mr Howard chromer was the

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proprietor of a reputable photography

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studio at Park Lodge Q Green in his

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employment was Mr Josiah

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peral I was filling the decanter when Mr

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peral surprised me by stating he had a

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matter of business to discuss with me he

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produced one of the photographs taken in

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Highgate some years

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before one of the unclad figures was

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unmistakably

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myself he bought it at a notorious shop

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in Hollywood Street and was now offering

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to sell it to me for

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£10 I realized that I would have to pay

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him I couldn't confide in my

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husband I had to go to a porn broker to

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pledge some jewelry the next day I paid

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peral before handing me the photograph

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he made a number of offensive remarks

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he'd been drinking my husband's madira

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when at last he handed me the photograph

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I burned it I knew it was possible that

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he had other photographs in his

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possession and my fears were confirmed a

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month later he told me that he intended

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to buy the original plates from which

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the photographs were printed then he

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asked me to Advance him the sum of £150

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I knew he would be able to persecute me

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for as long as he wanted we had a large

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number of distinguished clients people

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who would be outraged if they knew that

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I had posed for pictures of that

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kind I devised a plan to administer

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potassium cyanide to Mr peral in such a

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way that his death would be taken for

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suicide please continue potassium

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cyanide you see is one of the chemicals

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occasionally used in the developing of

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photographs on Monday 12th of March my

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husband left for Brighton where as Vice

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chairman he was to attend a Convention

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of the portrait photographers League we

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had no sittings that day and Mr peral

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was working alone in the

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studio the weekly order of wine arrives

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at noon on Mondays on its arrival I took

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the bottles to the studio and filled the

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decanters Mr peral went out for lunch

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soon

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afterwards I unlocked the poison cabinet

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and poured about a third of a bottle of

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potassium cyanide into a decanter of

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madira knowing that Mr peral would help

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himself liberally to the contents during

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the

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afternoon I replaced the cyanide bottle

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in the poison cabinet and locked it the

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action of cyanide my husband had often

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impressed on me was practically

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instantaneous and quite fatal I left the

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house confident that I would find peral

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dead on my return I would then create

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the appearance of suicide placing the

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cide bottle beside the wine glass and

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emptying the contents of the decanter

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refilling it with fresh madira

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my plans went irretrievably wrong he did

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not die at once two servants found him

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convulsions when the doctor was called

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he diagnosed cyanide poisoning and asked

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me where the poison was kept I unlocked

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the cabinet and showed him the bottle of

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potassium

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cyanide I pretended to have no knowledge

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of the events leading to Mr peral's

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death but I now confess that I murdered

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Josiah

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Bal I swear that this is a true

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statement and you hereby sign it this

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first day of June

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1888

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Miriam

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Jane

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James

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haven't you finished that yet James it

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has to be right woman I don't want him

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to think I'm looking for

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charity

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listen to J tcod Esquire proprietor

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Madame tuc's exhibition of wax Works

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malborne Road

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London dear

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sir I have not had the privilege of

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meeting you but I understand that my

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predecessor the late William marwood

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Esquire whose likeness in wax occupies a

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place of honor in your exhibition

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transacted business with you on a number

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of

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occasions you will have read in the

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newspapers of the unexpected confession

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of Miriam croma the Q poisoner prior to

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her trial you'll be aware that the trial

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was expected to be one of the most

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celebrated Trials of this

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decade when senten is passed I will be

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visiting London in connection with this

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case it would seem likely that after the

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the due enactment of the law you will

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exhibit a model in wax of the

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perpetrator of the crime for exhibition

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in your chamber of

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Horrors as you were certainly aware it

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has long been a perquisite of the office

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of executioner to take possession of the

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clothing last worn by those on whom he

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has performed his invidious Duty I

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should therefore be prepared to discuss

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the purchase by two swords of the

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clothes of the person in this case

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should you be

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interested your humble servant James

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executioner mind you I'm not looking for

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charity of course you're not it's me

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who's going to dictate terms to

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them you know I've waited a long time

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for a chance like

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this bill Mard were

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lucky yeah Charlie peace Kate Webster

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and Dr Lamson how much are you going to

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ask thank you

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Sarah I thought 20 that's not exorbitant

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really if you reckon the number of

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people will pay to look at her

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tickets for the trial were selling at 5

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guine until she

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confessed I think 202 ought to be about

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right for the

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clothes Miriam Jane Cromer you have

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confessed yourself guilty of the willful

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murder of Josiah peral have you anything

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to say why the court should not

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pronounce sentence upon

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you you must

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answer I I have nothing to say my

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Lord then the law leaves me no

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discretion and I must pass on you these

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sentence of the

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law and it is that this court that

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ordain you to be taken to the place from

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whence you came and from then to the

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place of

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execution and that you be there hang by

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the neck until you are

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dead and may the Lord have have mercy on

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your soul the court will be

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upstanding come along L here we

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my name is B have be seeing plenty of us

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Hawkings and

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me well pick yourself a bath in and get

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it filled with

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water look alive then take off your

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things backu up w you I thought for a

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moment just then you were shy of showing

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your

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skin I War you've got nothing we haven't

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before next on Friday nights we have

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four bars on the go and eight others

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naked as Cooks

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waiting it comes exclusive for your

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class of

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prisoner come along then all over top to

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tail hair and all

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here I'll do it for you no I can manage

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please yourself don't do nothing for me

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touching prisoner's air can't put these

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away they'll need

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washing

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there you are then no different from the

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rest of us in your

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skin here better get yourself dry don't

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want you to catch your

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death put this on and sit in a cubicle

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you have to see the doctor regulations

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when that's done we'll get you some

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prison clothes what will happen to my

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own things Miss and you speak to an

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officer croma address her in the proper

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fashion I'm sorry I

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forgot will they be returned to my

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husband Miss no you'll be permitted to

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wear them

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again at the end I see and after that

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you don't have to worry do you but if

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you think they come to any of us you're

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wrong never you mind where they

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not crib is that

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respector J sir I've been trying to find

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you since yesterday don't you ever leave

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a forwarding address when you've had a r

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with your wife F that I don't that makes

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it more interesting when I go back sir I

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need to talk to you still off Dy to late

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sir quite GP quite get

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out I do hate to disturb you crib you

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know

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there where can we talk there's an

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eating house right next door

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sir it's about the Miriam chroma case

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beautiful woman sir s in court much too

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pretty to do a nasty thing like that sir

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yeah yeah well that's what I want to

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talk to you about

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she says she unlocked the poison

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cupboard so where's the problem sir

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there were only two

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keys one hard chroma wore on his watch

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chain the other was peral's and it was

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still in his pocket when they found his

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body if Miriam crom's story is to be

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believed on the day she murdered peral

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she was in possession of one of those

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keys our husbands he was in Brighton he

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wouldn't have needed it a reasonable

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confence perfectly possible if it were

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not for

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this Howard chromer at Brighton that's

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the key on his watch chain cut from the

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photographic Journal of March the 24th

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the Home Secretary received it yesterday

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it came in a plain envelope with a West

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Central postmark there was no

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explanation this is one of the keys to

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the poison cabinet no doubt about it the

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home office have examined the original

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photograph under magnification that is

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one of the keys

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the other was on the

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body she had a copy made German Barrel

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Tumblr lock two keys Paras centrically

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cut no copies no peral let himself into

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the studio that morning he kept the key

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ring in his trouser pocket she says she

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took the poison from the poison cupboard

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when perel went out to lunch when she

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saw him next he was a dead man if she

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used peral's key how did she return it

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into the pocket of his trousers after he

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was dead if my memory serves me correct

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sir when the doctor asked about the

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poison Miriam

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croman yes I unlocked the cabinet and

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showed him the cyanide she must have had

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a key in her possession I am at a slight

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Advantage there son crib I read Dr

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Eagle's deposition when he asked her

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about the cyanide Mrs croma told him it

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was kept locked in the poison cupboard

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the doctor himself took the keys from

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the Dead Man's Pocket after he replaced

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them does anyone ask Mrs crowman about

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it no if she's covering up something or

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for somebody she's not likely to tell us

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there's a loose end somewhere and you

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want it tied up nice and tidy and

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quietly CRI the consequences could be

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disastrous if there was the slightest

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suggestion of a miscarriage of Justice

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questions in the house police made to

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look a laughing

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stop we need to know that Miriam chrom

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confession is the truth after all why

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the devil should she commit perjury to

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condemn herself to death how long have

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you got sir good man crib the execution

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is in 11

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days

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well nothing not even a fainy

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nothing can't have sunk in yet can't

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take quite a time of course it's sunk in

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all right she's got no feeling that one

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She's Strange are you sure she's calm of

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course I'm

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sure well brought some

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salts she won't be wanting salts not yet

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give her time

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yet and she's all right to see the

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governor I told you she just sits she

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don't say nothing no fits nothing she

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just

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sits there's nothing I can do then

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you'll be wanted in you

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course your

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feet step forward

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k

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I make a point of allowing prisoners

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under your circumstances time to settle

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themselves before I visit them and I

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always begin by making it clear that

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this institution exists only to meet the

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requirements of the

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law if your sentence is confirmed by her

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majesty I shall be required to deliver

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you to the sheriff for the

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implementation of that sentence you

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understand I understand

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sir three Sundays must elapse since the

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day on which sentence was passed and

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assuming there is no intervention I must

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deliver you to the sheriff shortly

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before 8 in the morning on um Monday

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June

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25th no doubt you rest your hopes on the

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possibility of a

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reprieve my advice to you croma is to

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put all such thoughts out of your head

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and reconcile yourself to your fate yes

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sir

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[Music]

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getting ready for a visit from the queen

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sir

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great good Lord man what brings you out

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of this nck of the woods working for

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statistics Branch we need to pick your

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brains I've been asked to gather Salient

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facts about a crime reduce it to columns

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and if we get our columns right we can

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do anything with

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Statistics I'm starting with murder from

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all accounts your Q green case was a

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copybook

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investigation oh well I wouldn't go as

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fast to say that but it's decently

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people to say so or a classic of its

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kind ideal for my purpose would you mind

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answering a few questions on how you

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nabbed mam chroma delighted my dear

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fellow anything I can do to help

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statistics well come on in it's nearly

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te

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time make yourself comfortable

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crib

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I understand you were the first member

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of the force on the scene sir that's

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right

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yes you assumed originally it was a case

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of suicide yeah what just as you and un

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when I heard from the analyst two days

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later that the Madera in the decanto was

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laced with s i by transform my opinion

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if person have poison himself he

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wouldn't have put poison in the dec put

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it straight in the wine glass now I had

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a case of murder on hands and the

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murderer had to be a member of the

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household at par so I asked them to make

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themselves available for

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questioning I'll realize later I

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shouldn't have warned them I was coming

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why was somebody missing I know they

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were all present but so was Simon aliam

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a family solicitor I'd have got a lot

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more done without him he knows his job

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as young aliam he raised so many

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objections to my questions he came close

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to obstructing me in my duty well you

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may find it difficult to believe but it

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took over an hour to establish you would

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fill the Blasted coun Miriam croman yeah

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well she eventually admitted that it was

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a regular task of her to fill the the

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cus once the wine arrived on Monday

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mornings my Friday they were empty so

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there was a standing order with the wine

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merchant now on the day of the murder

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the wine arrived at noon and Mrs CR to

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me straight to the

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studio you pick up any gossip from the

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Ser sir well there's no secret below

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stairs that Mrs CR strongly disliked

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first of all the housekeeper stated that

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on four occasions when Mr chromer was

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out Mrs chromer and persal had uh rxs as

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she called it but you know what I

437
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couldn't fathom was what peral had on

438
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her vulger pictures never cross me mind

439
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you ever turn up any of these

440
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pictures fancy you look do you

441
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crib no I didn't what sort of a woman in

442
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your opinion is Mrs CR I thought it was

443
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statistics you came to ask me about oh

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well you got me interested sir a woman

445
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will kill is a rare one on my word yes

446
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so it's company so I set another car

447
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good thinking comfortable you'll go

448
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far as a good man that reminds me of

449
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himself at his

450
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age bright as a button I was I took a

451
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sharp mind to invent the Chon pocket

452
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sewn into the uniform that's what clinks

453
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my promotion you know help yourself to

454
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Sugar where was I mam Chom oh yeah well

455
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it was all done in Cold Blood there's no

456
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doubt about that but if you were to ask

457
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me what sets her apart from other women

458
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is the absence of pity she's so damn

459
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self-possessed

460
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and I wouldn't mind bidding but even now

461
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she isn't wasting a thought on person

462
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how do you think she confessed I don't

463
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know H it promised to be a classic trial

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too with you as the principal witness

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sir you know I sorry not to get my

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chance in court we don't often get

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challenges here in que the odd obscene

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exposure by the the Lily Pond that kind

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of thing but um when we do we deal with

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them you can tell them that at Scotland

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Yard if you like whilst they collect

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statistics we are out on the streets

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coping with Grime from hour to

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hour get

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off a lot of

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cats yeah there Strays we get a lot of

477
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them being next to the bushes stray cat

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sub scene exposure the full calendar of

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crime Governor I wish to protest at the

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visiting fa ities it's quite impossible

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to conduct a conversation with two

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prison officers hanging on every word

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I'm sorry for the inconvenience but it

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is the usual arrangement I was even

485
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prevented from Shar her certain

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documents what documents a copy of the

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petition sent to the Home Secretary and

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yesterday's addition of the times there

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were some letters to are not allowed

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newspapers Mr allingham Governor this is

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a woman under sentence of death she

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needs to know what is being done you may

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expect some improvement in the visiting

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Arrangements in due course but in the

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meantime she tells me that the light is

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left on in her cell all night I have

497
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suggested to her that she places a

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handkerchief over her eyes when she

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wishes to sleep believe me Mr allingham

500
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I have no wish to cause Mrs croma undue

501
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suffering but the regulations are

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specific if you could persuade her to

503
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speak to the chaplain you would be doing

504
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her a great service but that would be

505
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like telling her we're abandoning Hope

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on the contrary you would be offering

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her hope of redemption our hope is for

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reprieve then you are doing her no

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service

510
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whatsoever she will not

511
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die they would not dare hang her I have

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received no indication to the contrary

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Mr

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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allingham my dear sir my apologies for

518
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keeping you your name I was advised is

519
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crib but I know nothing else about you

520
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Sergeant crib Mr chromer of the criminal

521
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investigation

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department I thought we'd Seen the Last

523
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of you gentlemen at Park L I've been

524
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asked to make another check of the

525
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statement your wife

526
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made this is the lady I presume uh yes

527
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taken last year to Mark our second

528
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wedding

529
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anniversary stunningly beautiful isn't

530
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she it may sound odd to you Sergeant

531
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coming from a man of my age but I am

532
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enslaved utterly

533
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enslaved merely to look at her is the

534
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greatest happiness you must forgive me

535
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if I talk incessantly about her it's

536
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your wife I came to ask about ah and do

537
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please sit down and uh look at this this

538
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will speak more objectively than

539
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I uh if you'll allow

540
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me

541
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:55,919
there uh Miriam with her family they

542
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came here one April afternoon in 1885 to

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sit for a family portrait that was the

544
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the first time I ever met her your

545
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reputation must be widely known sir oh

546
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well my work had been reproduced in the

547
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Tattler Miriam herself had drawn her

548
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father's attention to it uh now I took

549
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these the following

550
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week Isn't She

551
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Lovely some of the set I knew before my

552
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marriage uh there's Miriam in the white

553
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dress oh that's Simon allingham our

554
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solicitor how long have you known Mr

555
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,039
ringham Sir Simon oh must be 10 years we

556
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hunted together with a half ch he's a

557
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first class fellow he's been a tired of

558
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:36,120
strength these last terrible months um

559
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:39,120
oh may I seem to be stuck

560
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:39,120
together

561
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:48,159
uh there no harm done spot of glue on

562
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,440
the mount our wedding Miriam complains

563
00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:51,360
that this is the only photograph I

564
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:55,039
appear in I arranged for peral to take

565
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:57,559
it this was in September 1885 your

566
00:26:55,039 --> 00:27:00,279
courtship was brief then sir but in

567
00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:04,039
tensely busy in 5 months we did enough

568
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:06,440
for 3 years uh theater opera asket

569
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:09,039
Henley of course convention called for a

570
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,120
longer engagement but um I was in

571
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,799
raptured with her from the beginning and

572
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:15,000
she convinced me that I was the only man

573
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:17,279
alive she would consider marrying oh

574
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,840
there's Simon my best

575
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:22,159
man doesn't Miriam look

576
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,320
magnificent she is my

577
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:25,799
inspiration as a matter of fact I was

578
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,760
making a print of her hands when you

579
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:31,360
arrived it occupies my to work uh

580
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,600
privately of course I've refused all

581
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:35,360
commission since the tragedy happened

582
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,880
this unfortunate event must have hit

583
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:40,320
your business hard sir

584
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,519
yes yes I fear

585
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,600
so I heard that you built it up by your

586
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:48,880
own efforts sir yes that is absolutely

587
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,559
true I am a self-made man you won't give

588
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,519
up the trade

589
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:56,679
sir trade is not the expression I would

590
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:58,880
have used this is my art and I shall

591
00:27:56,679 --> 00:28:00,760
continue to practice it

592
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,159
I've come a long way in

593
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,799
photography when I first began in the

594
00:28:03,159 --> 00:28:08,640
60s every gentleman insisted upon being

595
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:11,440
posed leaning against a cardboard column

596
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,600
top hat in hand and one leg crossed over

597
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,600
the

598
00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:19,440
other how long have you lived in C sir

599
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:23,080
four years four years

600
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:26,080
only this is my reward this studio

601
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,760
represents many years of tiresome work

602
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,120
photographing vicious little boys in

603
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,000
Sailor

604
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:33,519
suits at one time I worked from a wooden

605
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,880
shed on the prominade at Worthing but

606
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:38,399
that is in confidence

607
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Sergeant was jiah peral your first

608
00:28:38,399 --> 00:28:42,559
assistant sir yes the First with any

609
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,399
photographic knowledge I took him on

610
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:46,480
soon after I moved here was the worst

611
00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:49,279
mistake of my life the man was

612
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,440
a the man was a

613
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:54,679
Viper and I failed to see it oh as an

614
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,039
assistant he was conscientious enough

615
00:28:54,679 --> 00:28:59,600
but an upstart I knew that he helped

616
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:02,120
himself to my madira for instance but

617
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,919
had I the smallest suspicion

618
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:08,399
that that poor girl she said not one

619
00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:11,320
word about him sergeant not one word why

620
00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:13,600
was that sir I've asked myself that

621
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,120
repeatedly those words in her confession

622
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:19,440
to confide in my husband was no solution

623
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,279
my own wife could not turn to me in her

624
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,640
torment there are secrets in most

625
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:24,880
married

626
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,320
yourself were there misunderstandings

627
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,000
between you

628
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,120
understandings nothing of any

629
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,840
consequence it would be fair to say that

630
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,559
during the first six months she found it

631
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:39,039
difficult to adjust to the marriage

632
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:40,799
bonds my fault mine entirely after I

633
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:44,559
married I wanted Miriam to

634
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:48,159
myself merely to see her in my own house

635
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:50,000
to talk to her to photograph her was all

636
00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:51,679
that I desired I failed to appreciate

637
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,840
that when I was working she might become

638
00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:57,360
bored you gave up your former friends

639
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,320
after your marriage yes yes all except

640
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,840
Simon

641
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,559
allingham to be candid I was worried

642
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:06,960
Miriam might weary of me and find the

643
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,640
younger people more amusing I'm a

644
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,720
jealous and possessive man and that's

645
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,519
the truth that you trusted your

646
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,559
wife she was an innocent

647
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:21,960
child nothing that has happened has

648
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:21,960
changed my devotion to her to lose her

649
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,799
would is there a chance do you think I

650
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:29,679
couldn't say what is in the secretary is

651
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:31,519
mine

652
00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:35,000
sir where were you on the day that

653
00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:36,360
personal died sir in Brighton Sergeant

654
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,600
the portrait photographers League was

655
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,480
holding its annual conference I am its

656
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,240
Vice

657
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,919
chairman time did you leave the house

658
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,159
that day oh early early I cannot be

659
00:30:42,919 --> 00:30:48,000
exact as a time you were catching a

660
00:30:45,159 --> 00:30:51,120
particular train no no particular one

661
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,200
what time the conference begins 11

662
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,559
Sergeant it'll take a good 2 hours to

663
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,960
get to Brighton from here you're there

664
00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:01,159
in time I hope the trains are most

665
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,080
reliable would this by any chance be

666
00:31:01,159 --> 00:31:04,760
where the wine is kept I see you have

667
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,240
some glasses on the top do please

668
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,760
forgive me may I offer you on beauty sir

669
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760
but I would like to see inside if I

670
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,639
may the one containing the poison is

671
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,480
still in the hands of the police but the

672
00:31:19,639 --> 00:31:23,039
can is always kept locked in here sir oh

673
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,480
no no no when clients come I have them

674
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:27,519
on top to offer them a glass photography

675
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,880
is an awesome experience sergeant to the

676
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:32,200
uninitiated fairly sure that peral would

677
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,760
help himself to Su in it was more likely

678
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:38,000
than not he was lying here and the

679
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,840
servants came in the wine glass Fallen

680
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,080
beside

681
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,200
him which is the poison cabinet sir oh

682
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,399
that's in the dark room if you'll come

683
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,399
this

684
00:31:52,880 --> 00:32:00,480
way may I see inside sir the cyanite was

685
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480
removed still light us inside

686
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,360
sir that's a capital idea sir keeping

687
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,720
the key on your Watch chain no risk of

688
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,720
leaving it

689
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,919
around that was a good strong lock may

690
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,080
I

691
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,799
aha it locks automatically of one thing

692
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:39,960
I can assure you there was no negligence

693
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:42,720
in the tragedy that happened here we

694
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,600
were all aware of the lethal effects of

695
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,159
potassium

696
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,840
cyanide there are only two keys to this

697
00:32:47,159 --> 00:32:51,320
cabinet yours and peral is that correct

698
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,720
sir yes on the day peral was murdered

699
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:58,039
you were in Brighton where was your key

700
00:32:53,720 --> 00:33:00,960
well uh thank you sir thank you

701
00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:02,320
on the day perciful died this key never

702
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,080
left my

703
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,840
person why is there some difficulty over

704
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,960
the

705
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:13,440
key no no difficulty that I can think of

706
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,679
Sir one thing I would like to borrow if

707
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,200
you have such a thing is a photograph of

708
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:20,080
your wife oh with my compliments there's

709
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,440
no shortage of portraits of Miriam

710
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:25,960
that's good the one I want is this

711
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,960
one one I was looking at when you came

712
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:31,159
in did you have it in a size convenient

713
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,440
for my

714
00:33:31,159 --> 00:33:38,200
pocket Sarah two swords have answered M

715
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:41,559
them two swords about those clothes is

716
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,240
it about me we would deem it a privilege

717
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:44,880
if you would consent to sit for us and

718
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,600
permit us to include your likeness in

719
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:51,200
the exhibition you mean they want that's

720
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,919
right they want to make a wax work of me

721
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,679
along with those murderers it's no

722
00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:58,399
disgrace to stand beside him in a wax

723
00:33:55,679 --> 00:34:01,360
work show it's it's an

724
00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:04,639
honor an object of unfailing interest to

725
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:07,039
our patrons that's what they say when do

726
00:34:04,639 --> 00:34:08,440
they want to see you I'll call and see

727
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:11,240
them when I'm down in London with Miriam

728
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,079
croma how long will it take them I don't

729
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:15,359
know they don't say I expect they'll

730
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:17,079
want some photographs taken and then

731
00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:18,679
I'll have to have a sitting you must

732
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:20,240
bring some back you know I've been

733
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,560
saying you should have your photograph

734
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:24,800
taken I have never had a proper picture

735
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:28,839
of you I'll get one taken when I'm down

736
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:31,280
there you could wear your Chapel suit I

737
00:34:28,839 --> 00:34:33,919
I I'll wear me Chapel suit I'd much

738
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,399
rather have one of you up there than

739
00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:39,960
that lot ah those people made history

740
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:39,960
woman I only hanged

741
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,280
them look alive chroma you to see the

742
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,200
governor 9:00

743
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,399
shop why does he want me I don't know on

744
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,399
your

745
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,430
[Music]

746
00:34:55,879 --> 00:35:05,119
feet

747
00:34:57,430 --> 00:35:09,720
[Music]

748
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:13,040
yeah yeah is this the port Le yeah

749
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:15,240
excellent who are you Wallace sir the

750
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,560
Clark good I wish to inspect the minutes

751
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:19,880
of the annual general meeting held in

752
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Brighton this year I'm

753
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:25,040
um I'm not sure you're allowed to do so

754
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,040
time that really isn't possible this

755
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:31,920
morning not possible not possible for a

756
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,720
member to inspect the Min of the AGM are

757
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,720
you familiar with the

758
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,839
Constitution it says here that the vice

759
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,640
chairman

760
00:35:54,839 --> 00:36:00,359
presided there were 63 members present

761
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,319
is that correct correct Mr chomer

762
00:36:00,359 --> 00:36:06,119
presided for the whole of the meeting

763
00:36:02,319 --> 00:36:07,839
did he Mr um chomer Mr chromer is the

764
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:09,400
vice chairman is he not oh yes he is to

765
00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:12,119
be sure but

766
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:16,640
um at the start of the annual general

767
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:19,280
meeting Dr darington Fisher

768
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,599
presided Mr Chrome is the new Vice

769
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,200
chairman sir the new committee having

770
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,200
been elected towards the end of the

771
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:29,240
afternoon

772
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,960
I

773
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:33,560
see now here's a queer thing it says

774
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,400
here that the treasurer was elected by

775
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:40,079
47 votes to 31 would you check my mental

776
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:42,079
arithmetic W 47 and 31 comes to more

777
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:44,160
than 63 doesn't it yeah it states at the

778
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:46,880
beginning there are 63 members present

779
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,800
63 in the morning sir some members

780
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,359
arrived late would you recall who no

781
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,079
afraid I

782
00:36:50,359 --> 00:36:57,720
don't

783
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:59,560
unless unless they wrote to the

784
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:01,200
secretary advising him they were unable

785
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,200
to

786
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,200
be

787
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:13,720
yeah ah my dear Thor this is to advise

788
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:15,760
you that I am unable to attend theual

789
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:17,640
you won't be needing this just a moment

790
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:21,720
sir I'm afraid I haven't another moment

791
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:23,520
to SP good day you're sleeping better

792
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,960
now I

793
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,160
hope the communication which I hold in

794
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,079
my hand is from the sheriff of the city

795
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,119
of

796
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:34,720
London it is the warrant for your

797
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:37,920
execution it will take place a week from

798
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:41,640
today at 8: in the

799
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,640
morning you wish to sit

800
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:46,560
down it will mean that you return now to

801
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,520
a different cell but with the same

802
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,359
offices in attendance you may receive

803
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,079
visitors your husband your solicitor if

804
00:37:52,359 --> 00:37:55,400
you

805
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:58,000
wish you may speak to me or to the

806
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,680
chaplain if if anything troubles

807
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,040
you I urge you again to commend your

808
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,839
soul to the

809
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,079
almighty he receives those who repent

810
00:38:04,839 --> 00:38:07,079
their

811
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:26,650
[Music]

812
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:34,430
sins

813
00:38:26,650 --> 00:38:34,430
[Music]

814
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,040
this way your

815
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:44,599
lhip suppose you can't wait to see a you

816
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:47,920
out well nearly

817
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:47,920
there here we

818
00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:54,119
[Music]

819
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:57,440
are this is

820
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:59,359
yours exclusive

821
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,640
this is larger than the other s it has

822
00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:03,839
to be for three of us in the occasional

823
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:07,400
visitor we still have to watch you in

824
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:11,240
Turn 2 by two day and night it's no

825
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:15,000
different in the CC you know CC what's

826
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:17,760
that you play cards chroma we allowed to

827
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,040
play cards with you B and me know just

828
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:23,079
about all the three-handed games you

829
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:25,480
ever heard of nap poker rumy

830
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:27,720
cribbage cards is a wonderful way of

831
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,760
passing the time

832
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:32,720
no thank

833
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,920
you you didn't answer my question

834
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:37,520
Miss well if you really want to know

835
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,640
it's the name we give the cell C for

836
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:43,160
cell follow me the first C could stand

837
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,599
for cards couldn't it but seeing as

838
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,720
you're not disposed to play cards how

839
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:50,440
would you care for a game of drafts

840
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:54,240
instead then we could call it the

841
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,240
DC what about that

842
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,400
eh

843
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:15,280
[Music]

844
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:17,520
perhaps the poses plastic with interest

845
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,520
you

846
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:24,400
sir nothing more artistic than this I'm

847
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:28,359
afraid not sir have you tried further

848
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,359
up where can we talk in

849
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,240
rivate

850
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,520
police sir help me they was here last

851
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:49,200
month my case came up at Bow Street

852
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,599
Friday I was fine

853
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,000
£25 what's funny I don't deal in

854
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,359
misdemeanors do you think it interests

855
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,720
me what smarty little pictures you keep

856
00:40:54,359 --> 00:40:59,280
locked in this desk

857
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:02,400
the crime I'm investigating to get you

858
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,760
put away for life is a dead man Brodsky

859
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,680
murdered him came in here last winter to

860
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,680
buy pictures of this

861
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:15,079
woman straight I never seen this lady in

862
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,520
my life I swear it you're lying this man

863
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:19,920
bought several pictures one called The

864
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,440
Three Graces I never sell such pictures

865
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,880
this is not the only shop in Holly

866
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,839
Street there are four maybe five others

867
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,800
I checked

868
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:30,280
them you make a mistake believe me it

869
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,280
won't be 25 this time

870
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:41,079
rodsky I never seen this lady may God

871
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:41,079
strike me down if I don't tell the

872
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:58,240
truth

873
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:07,200
yes sir the Highgate liter Society no

874
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,280
sir oh yes sir but it ain't near no more

875
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,839
been 2 years now they're not meeting

876
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,280
anymore I'm looking for Mrs

877
00:42:20,839 --> 00:42:25,839
dant

878
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,839
oh well since it's Wednesday you might

879
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:29,160
try the board School up the road she

880
00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:34,160
visits their see the state of the

881
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,160
children's AIDS public hygiene she calls

882
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:49,800
it this is about that woman in Q I

883
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:54,160
suppose that creature who poisoned a man

884
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:56,880
it was all in the times lies lies mom

885
00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:00,559
that vile confession a concoction of

886
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:03,000
wicked lies mentioning my society and my

887
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:04,440
name in such a connection one would

888
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,319
think from the times that the society

889
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,440
existed for no other purpose than the

890
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:11,119
debauching of innocent girls I shall Sue

891
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,760
naturally

892
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:17,240
next do you recollect Mrs Miriam Cromer

893
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,680
as a member of the society mom I do not

894
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:21,160
she was only 20 then known by a maiden

895
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,280
name of

896
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,480
kill I have a photograph over which

897
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,079
might assist your memory my memory needs

898
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,640
no assistance

899
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:32,440
next she refers in her confession to two

900
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,559
friends perhaps should remember three

901
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,599
girls about the same age we had a

902
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:41,200
membership of over 80 in the first year

903
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:45,119
Sergeant next ah how was the society

904
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:48,160
for in April 1881 the month dear dizzy

905
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:50,520
passed over now there was a prime

906
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,400
minister Not only was he a gentleman and

907
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,400
a Statesman second to none but a

908
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,319
literary man

909
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,960
next I was reliably informed the society

910
00:43:57,319 --> 00:44:02,640
existed entirely through your

911
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:05,000
inspiration an unflagging Enterprise m

912
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,520
one tries to occupy oneself usefully

913
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,720
Sergeant my membership list was a

914
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:13,040
testimony to the reputation of the

915
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:14,920
society ah next you happen to have that

916
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,960
lisma

917
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,640
destroyed when the society came to an

918
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,040
end I put everything to the flame

919
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,520
everything I was extremely provoked as

920
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,559
you may imagine certain people had

921
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,200
accused me of self AGR

922
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:32,160
Sergeant naturally I resigned my

923
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:34,000
position hiate was deprived of culture

924
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,880
by the vitriolic remarks of a click of

925
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,720
jealous incompetence Headmaster ma'am

926
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,319
there seems to be something here have

927
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:43,319
the doctor look at it will

928
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:43,319
you

929
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,480
ma'am very sad that a fine Society like

930
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,880
that should disappear overnight memories

931
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,680
apart there's nothing to prove that it

932
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,680
ever

933
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,720
existed not a

934
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,640
thing if

935
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:59,960
pardon me Mrs davner but if this

936
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,599
gentleman is looking for proof of the

937
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:05,920
society's existence I have it in my

938
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:08,070
study I was myself a loyal attender for

939
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,440
3 years if you

940
00:45:08,070 --> 00:45:13,400
[Music]

941
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,480
remember when we made our little

942
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,319
pilgrimage to Hamstead one afternoon to

943
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,720
see the actual seat where poor John

944
00:45:17,319 --> 00:45:22,520
Keats was accustomed to rest before he

945
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:24,800
died some of us formed up for a

946
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,880
photograph if this picture is any

947
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,880
interest to you sir

948
00:45:28,359 --> 00:45:33,599
unfortunately most of these people are

949
00:45:30,359 --> 00:45:36,119
strangers to me it occurs to me that in

950
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:38,480
group portraits the names are sometimes

951
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:39,599
written on the reverse I wonder where

952
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,800
I'm afraid there's nothing on the

953
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:45,720
reverse of

954
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,720
this uh see for

955
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,800
yourself you don't

956
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,880
mind

957
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,920
well now look at

958
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:18,280
that Z Kil

959
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:26,839
Patrick Judith

960
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:30,680
hyut Miss C Piper Mr G

961
00:46:26,839 --> 00:46:30,680
Winson Mr s

962
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,480
allingham you remember any of these

963
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,839
people now that we have their Nam sir

964
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:42,040
absolutely not it was 6 years

965
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:43,280
ago that happened to be a copy of the

966
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,280
post office

967
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,280
directory

968
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,240
yeah I won cut this one open

969
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:00,200
sir

970
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:04,480
can I help you sir Mr hyut No Sir Mr

971
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:06,559
hyut sold the business to me sir ah when

972
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,079
was that oh that would be in uh

973
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:10,400
September

974
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:13,079
1884 you happen to know the present

975
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,000
whereabouts of the hyut family couldn't

976
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:16,920
say so there was only the old man left

977
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,760
wasn't there he wasn't up to carrying on

978
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:22,520
the business after his daughter went

979
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,520
went Judith Hut where did she

980
00:47:23,319 --> 00:47:30,680
go to me her maker oh she died sir oh a

981
00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:33,040
tragedy she was only 21 and a fine

982
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,880
looking last too you happen to know how

983
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:39,319
she died oh yes sir it was all reported

984
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:41,200
in the express uh she um she committed

985
00:47:39,319 --> 00:47:42,920
suicide at her place of work the

986
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,200
photographers in

987
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,520
West she took poison that's um

988
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,520
pottassium

989
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,200
s

990
00:47:54,720 --> 00:48:01,960
s m chrom is practically finished Mr B

991
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:05,079
we should exhibit the figure the moment

992
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:07,880
we hear that you have uh performed your

993
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:10,680
work I expect a considerable crowd on

994
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:13,599
Monday morning a murderess is a

995
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:16,440
particular attraction it's just a job to

996
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:17,480
me Mr TW sword I make no distinction man

997
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,520
or

998
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,119
woman except in calculating the drop

999
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,400
there is a lot of Sympathy For Mrs

1000
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:26,760
croman the newspapers are full of

1001
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,640
correspondents about the Cent

1002
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,599
but she'll not suffer at my

1003
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,839
hands it's all scientific now you know

1004
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:36,079
we give him a long drop it's very quick

1005
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:38,599
there's no bungling yes quite well now

1006
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:40,960
Mr belly with regard to our present

1007
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:43,400
business we thought if we could begin

1008
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:47,000
the sitting for your own likeness this

1009
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:49,440
afternoon there is the matter of the fee

1010
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,599
those who appear in the chamber are not

1011
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,960
usually compensated for the honor Mr per

1012
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:56,480
most of them are dead except of course

1013
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,359
yourself

1014
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:02,960
we thought perhaps the sum of

1015
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:05,200
£00 I think that would be most

1016
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,760
satisfactory you know my wife asked me

1017
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,960
to bring her a spare copy of the model

1018
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,520
when you'd done it she said she wanted

1019
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,440
to keep it in the front room under a

1020
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,480
glass

1021
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,119
dome but I told her I'd get some

1022
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,359
photographs taken while I was down here

1023
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:20,760
she'll have to be content with that eh

1024
00:49:18,359 --> 00:49:24,000
had you chosen a photographer I thought

1025
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:26,160
I might go to chroma's Studio chroma the

1026
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:30,520
husband of the lady in question he's

1027
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:33,240
still in business ah how quaint you like

1028
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:35,119
to get close to your subject I like to

1029
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:36,480
say sometimes that I stood in the place

1030
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:38,720
where it actually

1031
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,640
happened it makes a story to tell your

1032
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:43,359
grandchildren indeed and you can bring

1033
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,079
them down here to see you when the model

1034
00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:48,040
is done you'll find you'll become quite

1035
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:51,359
a figure of

1036
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:53,720
veneration do you know Mr Berry

1037
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:58,160
sometimes when we're cleaning the models

1038
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:59,760
in this chamber we find handkerchiefs

1039
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:04,319
pushed in the

1040
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:06,200
pockets ladies handkerchiefs lace edged

1041
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:10,559
and still smelling of

1042
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,559
perfume people are strange eh Mr

1043
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,400
tord you say there were these three

1044
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:19,640
young ladies crib Miriam Kil Patrick

1045
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,280
Judith anut and Miss C Piper no

1046
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,760
Christian named constant Carol Charlotte

1047
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,880
and you believe they were the three who

1048
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,359
were tricked into posing for impr proper

1049
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,559
photograph the confession mentioned

1050
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:32,040
Frieza so you went in search of Judith

1051
00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:34,079
Honeycut and you found she was dead from

1052
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,640
cyanide poisoning I was interested in

1053
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:38,200
the photographer Mr Duke Kain who

1054
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,839
employed Miss anikat damn it GB our job

1055
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,400
is to inquire into peral's death and

1056
00:50:40,839 --> 00:50:43,680
there's not much time I went to West

1057
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Hamstead Sir with the intention of

1058
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,799
calling on Mr duain but he no longer

1059
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,400
lives there in fact Mr duain seems to

1060
00:50:47,799 --> 00:50:52,480
have vanished without trace my theory is

1061
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,839
that after Julian Duan left Hamstead he

1062
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,559
started up as a photographer in q but

1063
00:50:54,839 --> 00:50:59,520
not as Julian duain you mean as our

1064
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:01,720
chroma when I first interviewed our

1065
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,319
chroma he went to no end of trouble to

1066
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:04,440
cooperate I couldn't get a straight

1067
00:51:03,319 --> 00:51:06,280
answer about the time he left for

1068
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,880
Brighton except he left sometime early

1069
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,160
in the morning he was not expected there

1070
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,960
till half 2 when he showed me the

1071
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,760
photograph album he tried to give the

1072
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,680
impression that he first met Miriam the

1073
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,079
day her family came to the studio at Q

1074
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,480
for a group portrait that was in April

1075
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:22,960
1885 I believe he knew her 3 years

1076
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,599
earlier than that what ground do you

1077
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,599
have for saying that I was suspicious of

1078
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:28,240
the album itself sir a photograph of

1079
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:29,880
their wedding 2 and a half years before

1080
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:31,280
was stuck together which implied that it

1081
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,400
hadn't been looked at since it was put

1082
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,440
in unless it had been recently pasted

1083
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,960
into the album that set me thinking that

1084
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,040
he might have put the entire album

1085
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,520
together to illustrate his story that's

1086
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,040
a lot to deduce from a spot of glue

1087
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,200
Sergeant well that isn't the only thing

1088
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,760
sir the photograph the Headmaster showed

1089
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,599
me showed the three girls together and

1090
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,520
beside them Simon allingham chroma's

1091
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:52,960
oldest friend now if allingham was known

1092
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,480
to Miriam in the summer of 1882 it's

1093
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,319
feasible that she was also acquainted

1094
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,640
with chroma that won't do Sergeant you

1095
00:51:57,319 --> 00:52:03,480
know what you're guilty of post Hawk

1096
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:06,200
Ergo propter Hawk pardon do you not have

1097
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Latin well it doesn't matter it means

1098
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:11,480
that your reasoning is founded upon a

1099
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,960
fallacy you've persuaded yourself that

1100
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,160
chromer is not what he purports to be so

1101
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,920
you're fitting the facts to justify your

1102
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,119
Prejudice it's possible that he was

1103
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,680
involved in peral's death sir if he was

1104
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:23,319
in queue that morning he could have put

1105
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,640
the poison in the decanter as easily as

1106
00:52:23,319 --> 00:52:29,400
his wife could more important he a key

1107
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,400
to the poison cabinet and she

1108
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,640
didn't Sergeant I cannot emphasize too

1109
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,920
forcibly that if there is anything in

1110
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,280
this at all it will not convince the

1111
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,280
Home Secretary without solid evidence to

1112
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,480
support it where is that evidence to

1113
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,040
come from Miriam chroma sir what

1114
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,480
precisely are you saying sir today

1115
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,280
Thursday sir the woman's due to hang on

1116
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,880
Monday our report should be on the

1117
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,400
commissioner's death by tomorrow evening

1118
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,920
there's now time to put men on hous toh

1119
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,400
house inquiries to establish chroma's

1120
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,559
movements on the morning of the crime

1121
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,359
Miriam K can tell me permission to

1122
00:52:57,559 --> 00:53:02,359
interview US sir out of the question

1123
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:02,359
she's in The Condemned

1124
00:53:05,799 --> 00:53:09,640
cell with respect sir I'd like to know

1125
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,760
why it's not possible it would not be

1126
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,119
countenanced well surely in the

1127
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,960
interests of justice justice has had its

1128
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:18,200
opportunity Sergeant all we are now

1129
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,960
required to do is to find out how she

1130
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:23,960
did it do you follow after all she did

1131
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:27,280
plead guilty let hangman Berry do his

1132
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,319
work on Monday if after the execution

1133
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,079
anyone should question her guilt it

1134
00:53:29,319 --> 00:53:35,440
would be as well if the independent

1135
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:35,440
inquiry did not conflict with her

1136
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:44,480
confession damn it crib you can see that

1137
00:53:40,359 --> 00:53:45,740
can't you just find out how she did it

1138
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:54,160
all

1139
00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:56,079
[Music]

1140
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,680
right

1141
00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:00,720
there's a visitor outside you have some

1142
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,880
hair showing Tu it under your C it's

1143
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:02,880
your

1144
00:54:05,839 --> 00:54:12,960
husband H love sa your love and tell me

1145
00:54:08,359 --> 00:54:15,200
what is happening outside yes yes of

1146
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,559
course the petition is being delivered

1147
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,559
to the home office this afternoon 13,000

1148
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:22,160
signatures demanding a reprieve an

1149
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:24,079
avalanche of sympathetic letters

1150
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,079
sympathy what do you mean sympathy I'm

1151
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:29,720
not dead no no forgive me I'm confident

1152
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:30,839
that Justice will be done I mean I know

1153
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:35,079
what you

1154
00:54:30,839 --> 00:54:37,480
mean how something else happened tell me

1155
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:39,240
there have been two visitors this week

1156
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,240
on Sunday a detective Sergeant came and

1157
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:42,680
put a lot of searching questions to me

1158
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:44,119
about what well he wanted to know what

1159
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,079
train I caught to Brighton what did you

1160
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:49,440
say well you know me incourage vague

1161
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:51,319
about such things I showed him where the

1162
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,440
decanas were kept he wanted to see

1163
00:54:51,319 --> 00:54:56,119
inside the poison cabinet and insisted

1164
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,400
on opening it himself with my key was he

1165
00:54:56,119 --> 00:55:00,480
satisfied well he should have been but

1166
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,440
there's been something else I'm

1167
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,000
convinced that the inquiry is still

1168
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,920
continuing the second visitor yes he

1169
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,559
came yesterday afternoon a strongly

1170
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,920
built fellow with a scarred face and a

1171
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:12,680
black beard he said he wanted a

1172
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,319
photograph of himself did he ask you

1173
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,559
questions oh yes he asked me questions

1174
00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:17,839
it was all he could do not to take out

1175
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:20,240
his notebook he showed a lot of interest

1176
00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:22,200
in the room in which the occurrence as

1177
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,799
he described it took place I

1178
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,119
photographed him he gave me an address

1179
00:55:23,799 --> 00:55:29,880
in Bradford to post the wanted to

1180
00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:31,839
probably the police station so they've

1181
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:35,119
sent a second

1182
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:37,839
detective have you spoken to Simon

1183
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:42,039
yes asked Simon to visit me tomorrow

1184
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:45,599
morning and Howard I Shan expect to see

1185
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:45,599
you do you

1186
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:53,280
understand Howard yes I am

1187
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:03,079
grateful

1188
00:55:56,180 --> 00:56:05,200
[Music]

1189
00:56:03,079 --> 00:56:07,640
there you are crib that's every picture

1190
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:11,440
confiscated by my squad and my

1191
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:14,440
predecessors in the last 15 years help

1192
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:18,000
yourself artistic poses Continental

1193
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,559
groups all the fun of the fair sex look

1194
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,359
here mosa couldn't you see your way to

1195
00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:24,520
helping me through this lot I don't have

1196
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:26,960
much time I agreed to let you in here

1197
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:29,319
crib and God knows I had to bend my

1198
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:32,160
principles to do it and now you're

1199
00:56:29,319 --> 00:56:34,240
asking me to plow my way through 10,000

1200
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,799
pictures with you and I don't even know

1201
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:39,079
what you're looking for this woman and

1202
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:42,400
two others uh don't you think it would

1203
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:46,119
help if you told me her name mam CR a c

1204
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:48,480
poisoner the same she's not our sort

1205
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:51,000
crib save yourself the trouble she's not

1206
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,160
the kind of trade we get in here you

1207
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,160
know something I'm beginning to believe

1208
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,640
you're right inspector uh you said there

1209
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,400
were others may

1210
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:03,599
I any of these faces mean anything to

1211
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:08,359
you no oh only the

1212
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:10,839
actress actress uh that one uh lty Piper

1213
00:57:08,359 --> 00:57:14,520
she's in that show at the royalty now

1214
00:57:10,839 --> 00:57:14,520
lty Charlotte Piper lty

1215
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:22,640
Piper that's who it is obvious mosa you

1216
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:27,319
are magnificent oh you develop a memory

1217
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,319
for faces in here the other

1218
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:40,240
things come in darling my oh oh which

1219
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,640
particular darling are you may I come in

1220
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:46,359
Miss I've have yet to meet a darling who

1221
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:48,559
didn't not what you think

1222
00:57:46,359 --> 00:57:51,559
police

1223
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:53,039
oh I have a card yes well I can see you

1224
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:56,640
haven't got any

1225
00:57:53,039 --> 00:58:00,559
champagne oops 15 minutes Miss Piper

1226
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:02,720
thank you I am in rather a hurry officer

1227
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:06,839
I'd like you to look at this

1228
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:10,240
picture you recognize the lady of course

1229
00:58:06,839 --> 00:58:14,559
but I don't recognize you sorry Miss

1230
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:16,039
detective Sergeant Crim of the C really

1231
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:18,200
now I wouldn't have thought detection

1232
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:20,760
was necessary considering Miriam's

1233
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,359
confession was in all the papers she is

1234
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,880
due to angon Monday Miss representations

1235
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:26,359
have been made to the home office on her

1236
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,680
behalf and it's my job to see if they

1237
00:58:26,359 --> 00:58:31,359
hold water has Madam decided she would

1238
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,839
like to change her plea no now no no

1239
00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:35,880
I'll ask the questions miss you saw the

1240
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:37,799
confession in the papers a section of it

1241
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:41,160
refers to

1242
00:58:37,799 --> 00:58:45,119
you I didn't give your name but

1243
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:48,160
uh well it was you wasn't it come now

1244
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:49,640
Sergeant let's not be COI you asked me

1245
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,000
if I took my clothes off for a

1246
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,880
photograph you won't make me blush after

1247
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:57,359
the years I've spent in the theater what

1248
00:58:53,880 --> 00:59:00,039
you got up to Mrs is of no interest well

1249
00:58:57,359 --> 00:59:02,319
that's not very Galant tell me have you

1250
00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:04,839
seen any of these deplorable photographs

1251
00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:07,599
no Miss well I can assure you the

1252
00:59:04,839 --> 00:59:09,119
pictures I remember were absolutely tame

1253
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:11,280
Lord Knows Why Miriam took such a

1254
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:14,000
serious stand on the matter actually

1255
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,599
poisoning a man on account of it when

1256
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:19,559
did you join this uh artistic Society oh

1257
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:22,000
darling I have no idea I haven't ahead

1258
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:24,240
for dates all I can remember was that

1259
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,720
little hole buzzing with conversation

1260
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:29,039
seemed to like the cafe Royal I've never

1261
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:32,119
experienced anything so exotic how did

1262
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:35,079
the business of the photographs arise H

1263
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:37,440
well one of the society's Founders was a

1264
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:38,839
personal friend of Sir Frederick Leon

1265
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,039
she happened to know that the great

1266
00:59:38,839 --> 00:59:43,520
artist was interested in finding a

1267
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:46,319
number of elegantly proportioned young

1268
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:49,000
ladies to pose for a canvas on a

1269
00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:50,440
classical theme we were told an

1270
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,319
assistant of Leon would make the

1271
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,280
preliminary study the following

1272
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:55,680
afternoon we presented ourselves at the

1273
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,240
studio

1274
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:01,640
to discover that the assistant was not a

1275
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:04,119
painter at to but a photographer called

1276
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:07,079
Julian Duan needless to say Sir

1277
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:09,079
Frederick Leighton knew nothing about it

1278
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:11,359
you happen to know how Judith Honeycut

1279
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:13,559
came to be in Duke K's employment this

1280
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:16,280
is a free country darling she went to

1281
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:18,720
work for him come now lty that's no help

1282
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,760
Judith is dead Miriam is locked in her

1283
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,839
death cell you were the only one who can

1284
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,839
tell me how those photographic sittings

1285
01:00:22,839 --> 01:00:29,200
led to one girl working for the man and

1286
01:00:24,839 --> 01:00:32,880
the other marrying him did he blackmail

1287
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:35,160
them blackmail oh Sergeant that's

1288
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:38,280
delicious you evidently need a few

1289
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,079
lessons in feminine psychology we were

1290
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,160
paid a guinea each and we giggled all

1291
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:45,480
the way home we were modern young women

1292
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,839
sergeant and they were classical poses I

1293
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,200
was rather relieved that the picture

1294
01:00:46,839 --> 01:00:50,640
didn't appear at the Royal Academy it

1295
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,400
never occurred to me they'd be put to

1296
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,240
any other purpose we were deeply

1297
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,280
interested in the the impression our

1298
01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:00,599
bodies made on Julian duain each one of

1299
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:03,039
us imagined him becoming intoxicated

1300
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:05,440
with her charms went back there were

1301
01:01:03,039 --> 01:01:07,359
more sitting oh we pursued him he was

1302
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,520
the Lost poor man he tried to solve the

1303
01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:11,760
problem by introducing us to his friends

1304
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,440
it nearly worked Simon was smitten with

1305
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,680
Mir Simon allingham yes but Julian was

1306
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,280
the prize she

1307
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:20,680
wanted we were the Three Graces in a

1308
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,720
modern Judgment of Paris Sergeant each

1309
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:27,440
one of us wanted to

1310
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:29,799
win over is Miss Piper thank

1311
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,960
you and while Judith succeeded in

1312
01:01:29,799 --> 01:01:34,000
installing herself as Julian's assistant

1313
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:38,039
Miriam was left at home

1314
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:41,359
fretting crying no Sergeant give Miriam

1315
01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:43,799
credit for more style than that more

1316
01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:46,359
planning ah you mean while Judith was in

1317
01:01:43,799 --> 01:01:48,520
the dark room Miriam and Julian were out

1318
01:01:46,359 --> 01:01:52,079
with a camera and a picnic basket

1319
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:54,720
exactly so Judith was eclipsed you might

1320
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:56,920
think so but not yet sometime later I

1321
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:59,760
met her in Hamstead High Street her face

1322
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:03,400
was pink with excitement she told me she

1323
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:05,680
was engaged to be married to Julia no

1324
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,079
and that they intended to tell Miriam

1325
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,160
that very evening Judith was certain

1326
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:11,599
that Miriam would share in their Joy I

1327
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,760
told her frankly Miriam would be

1328
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:16,039
incensed that she was too single-minded

1329
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,039
to give up Judith laughed and said she

1330
01:02:16,039 --> 01:02:20,559
had no fear of losing Julian she said he

1331
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:24,039
didn't see Miriam as a person at all but

1332
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:24,920
a face a face to be photographed not to

1333
01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:27,760
be

1334
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:31,039
kissed I said that perhaps Julian saw

1335
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,760
all women with a photographer's eye she

1336
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:36,240
laughed again and said she was sure he

1337
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:38,839
did not she was carrying the

1338
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:42,319
proof his

1339
01:02:38,839 --> 01:02:45,279
child tell me something lty how do you

1340
01:02:42,319 --> 01:02:46,799
account to yourself of Judith's

1341
01:02:45,279 --> 01:02:50,319
death

1342
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:52,119
Sergeant I couldn't account for

1343
01:02:50,319 --> 01:02:55,279
it

1344
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:57,599
lty do you believe that she took her own

1345
01:02:55,279 --> 01:03:00,319
life since I read in the papers what

1346
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:04,200
happened in Q

1347
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:04,200
no I think Judith was

1348
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,400
murdered not too close how are you

1349
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,799
impatient for news my dear Howard is

1350
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,680
missing the police want to question him

1351
01:03:11,799 --> 01:03:15,079
they found out he's left the house they

1352
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,400
think he's left the country they're

1353
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:19,480
trying to find him yes and that means

1354
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:22,599
they want to charge him with something

1355
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:26,279
then it's nearly over Simon

1356
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:26,279
yes nearly over

1357
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,680
thas fled seems likely he's left the

1358
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,119
country good Lord what on Earth has made

1359
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,200
him do that things have been happening

1360
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:39,680
said that I know nothing about I think I

1361
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,839
have a right to be informed if another

1362
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,599
officer put on the same case what other

1363
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:45,319
officer I was keeping chromer on the

1364
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:47,000
light rain someone else has been to see

1365
01:03:45,319 --> 01:03:48,680
him panicked him he could be in France

1366
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:51,039
by now who have you put on to this

1367
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,640
following me around there's nobody else

1368
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:54,559
I haven't sent another

1369
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,040
detective well they no friend frighten

1370
01:03:54,559 --> 01:04:05,579
him

1371
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:05,579
[Music]

1372
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,559
off if chrom has left the country you've

1373
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,359
lost him you can't get him back without

1374
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:14,640
an extradition order and an extradition

1375
01:04:12,359 --> 01:04:16,920
order requires a very serious charge it

1376
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,880
would have to be murder and you can't

1377
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:21,720
charge The Man With Murder when his

1378
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,200
wife's convicted of the crime no sir I

1379
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:26,440
know not unless we an arrange of pardon

1380
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:30,920
for his

1381
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,920
wife so Sergeant what do you want me to

1382
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,799
do persuade the commissioner to let me

1383
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:39,160
into the condemn C I must speak to

1384
01:04:36,799 --> 01:04:39,160
Miriam

1385
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:48,000
k no

1386
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:51,480
touching Simon if we could only begin

1387
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:53,920
again oh mam my

1388
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,279
dear there is nothing I would rather

1389
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,079
wish

1390
01:04:55,279 --> 01:05:00,880
for but you must put all such thoughts

1391
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:03,160
out of your mind there is a way

1392
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,520
Simon I wouldn't ask you to say anything

1393
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:09,440
that was not true only to keep silent if

1394
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:12,559
the moment comes will you do that for my

1395
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:15,240
sake oh if only Howard had been as

1396
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:18,319
honest with me as he was kind what do

1397
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:21,480
you mean that he concealed from me the

1398
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:26,000
truth about Judith Hut

1399
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:28,599
Judith but it was the inquest you knew

1400
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:33,079
about the tragedy we all did

1401
01:05:28,599 --> 01:05:35,279
Simon I know how Judith died what do you

1402
01:05:33,079 --> 01:05:37,000
say he confessed it to me as he lay

1403
01:05:35,279 --> 01:05:39,039
beside me on our wedding night that he

1404
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,039
was responsible for her condition at the

1405
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:42,520
time of her death she threatened a

1406
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:44,079
scandal and as he married her in his

1407
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:48,359
mental anguish he decided there was only

1408
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:51,640
one escape to do away with her oh mam

1409
01:05:48,359 --> 01:05:51,640
for God's sake this can't be

1410
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:57,359
true I knew nothing of this nothing

1411
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,720
whatever view the law may take of the

1412
01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:02,000
present case he is guilty Simon Judith

1413
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,480
died in

1414
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:08,160
agony I wanted you to know if they find

1415
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:10,160
her they will arrest him they will be

1416
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,160
obliged to Pardon you before they can

1417
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,599
issue a warrant Howard will be brought

1418
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,160
to trial unless he can convince them he

1419
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:17,480
is Innocent but if he hasn't able to

1420
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,000
convince them

1421
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:23,000
Simon then I should be

1422
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,370
free in every sense of the

1423
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:32,940
word

1424
01:06:25,370 --> 01:06:35,279
[Music]

1425
01:06:32,940 --> 01:06:37,200
[Applause]

1426
01:06:35,279 --> 01:06:39,520
I may say this is without precedent

1427
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,799
Sergeant crib I've never spoken to a

1428
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,440
prisoner on the sentence of death I hope

1429
01:06:41,799 --> 01:06:48,119
you know what you're

1430
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:50,039
doing tell me how is she enduring no

1431
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:52,599
better for this infliction sir the

1432
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:52,599
governor's with

1433
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,960
her

1434
01:06:54,920 --> 01:07:00,640
Chief Inspector giant would you begin my

1435
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:04,920
assistant Sergeant crib is to put the

1436
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,920
questions please sit down s didn't

1437
01:07:10,839 --> 01:07:15,279
crib you haven't met me before Mom I was

1438
01:07:14,279 --> 01:07:17,240
brought in to take a look at the

1439
01:07:15,279 --> 01:07:19,160
confession you

1440
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,880
made I'd like to talk about that

1441
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,440
confession if you don't

1442
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:26,920
mind I want to ask you if you stand by

1443
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,920
everything you said in this

1444
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,279
document naturally she does this is an

1445
01:07:32,839 --> 01:07:38,480
affidavit sworn by magistrate I must

1446
01:07:36,279 --> 01:07:42,319
caution you not to impute perjury to my

1447
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:44,279
client Sergeant yes of

1448
01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:45,319
course there are certain small things

1449
01:07:44,279 --> 01:07:47,720
that have come to light since your

1450
01:07:45,319 --> 01:07:50,079
conviction we can't quite Square

1451
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,720
them the mistake may be on our side

1452
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:53,920
where it must

1453
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,559
be may I take it that you prepared to

1454
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,359
answer questions

1455
01:07:55,559 --> 01:07:59,279
Mom I'm not here to trap you I don't go

1456
01:07:58,359 --> 01:08:02,119
in for

1457
01:07:59,279 --> 01:08:04,160
trickery I'll come to the point shortly

1458
01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:05,760
after your conviction a scrap of paper

1459
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,039
cut from a photographic Journal was sent

1460
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,960
to the home office picture of your

1461
01:08:08,039 --> 01:08:13,359
husband taken in Brighton the D's eyers

1462
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:14,520
was killed an arrow drawn in red ink

1463
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:16,880
points to the key that your husband

1464
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,960
wears on his was chain a key that

1465
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,600
subsequent inquirers established belongs

1466
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:24,120
to the poison cabinet now there's our

1467
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,440
first problem M how could you have

1468
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:28,400
unlocked the cabinet if one key was with

1469
01:08:26,440 --> 01:08:30,480
your husband and the other in the pocket

1470
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,199
of the victim my client does not wish to

1471
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:34,239
add anything to the statement she has

1472
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:35,440
already volunteered naturally I was

1473
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:37,359
obliged to check the movements of your

1474
01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:39,319
husband on Monday the 12th of March and

1475
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:41,839
it transpires that he was not as we had

1476
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:43,440
supposed in brighten that morning he was

1477
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:46,719
in fact not expected to be there before

1478
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:49,960
halfast 2 he could on the face of it of

1479
01:08:46,719 --> 01:08:51,600
do the decanter himself that is absurd

1480
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:54,199
you can have no evidence to suggest that

1481
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,560
Mr chromer poisoned his own assistant

1482
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:57,199
what possible reason could he have for

1483
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,120
doing such a thing the reason that Mrs

1484
01:08:57,199 --> 01:09:02,080
Cromer gave you her confession she was

1485
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:04,920
being blackmailed her reputation and

1486
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:07,199
therefore that of her husband was a

1487
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,319
stake the man who took those photographs

1488
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:12,000
of you and your two friends was known as

1489
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:14,640
Julian Duke

1490
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:17,400
Kan was he

1491
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:19,440
not is this of any relevance you should

1492
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,679
know sir it was your best friend and

1493
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:25,560
your husband

1494
01:09:20,679 --> 01:09:27,040
M I am right am I not

1495
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,040
unfortunately for you these photographs

1496
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,480
fell into the hands of Josiah pel who

1497
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:33,480
told you he acquired them in Hollywood

1498
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:34,880
Street from my inquiries I suspect that

1499
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:35,920
he mentioned that notorious place to

1500
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,279
frighten

1501
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:41,319
you you made a number of payments to

1502
01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:43,239
peral over a period of 4 months but you

1503
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:46,600
did not speak to your husband about

1504
01:09:43,239 --> 01:09:49,000
it I am bound to wonder why she made the

1505
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,839
reason perfectly clear in the affidavit

1506
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,920
it could serve no practical purpose

1507
01:09:50,839 --> 01:09:54,800
except to extend the blackmail to Howard

1508
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,400
I am aware of that sir what I'm coming

1509
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,800
to Mom is it wasn't just the photographs

1510
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,440
you thought would alarm your

1511
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,960
husband it was the connection with West

1512
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:06,000
Hamstead and Judith Hut's death from

1513
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:09,159
cyanide

1514
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:11,360
poisoning there was an inquest Judith

1515
01:10:09,159 --> 01:10:13,520
committed suicide one thing was not made

1516
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,920
clear at that inquest the coroner was

1517
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,920
not informed that at the time of her

1518
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,880
death Judith hanika was engaged to be

1519
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,920
married to Julian du K what how could

1520
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:26,840
you possibly know that because she told

1521
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:29,719
ly Piper lty lty has spoken to you

1522
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,120
yesterday lty never liked me she was

1523
01:10:29,719 --> 01:10:32,640
viciously jealous because Howard chose

1524
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,800
me as his model I was the one he wanted

1525
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:38,520
not lty or Judith Judith is expecting a

1526
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:40,360
child and Howard poisoned her mum why

1527
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,560
deny it now the girl was a [ __ ] worse

1528
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,480
than the ones on the streets because her

1529
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,719
price included marriage I suggest you

1530
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:48,679
say no more if I don't speak now I shall

1531
01:10:45,719 --> 01:10:50,480
be hanged Simon God knows I've kept

1532
01:10:48,679 --> 01:10:51,920
silent no one can accuse me of

1533
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:53,880
disloyalty to my husband he has

1534
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,120
condemned himself by running away his

1535
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,400
nightmare was that someone would

1536
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,760
discover the real circumstances of

1537
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,159
Judith's death when I told him P

1538
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,800
intended going to hamstad to try to

1539
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:03,800
trace the plates of those photographs he

1540
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,840
was seized with Terror he was certain it

1541
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,920
would raise questions that had never

1542
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,520
been asked about Judith and himself he

1543
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:12,159
believed his arrest for her murder would

1544
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:13,400
be inevitable if he did not act so

1545
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:15,840
instead of traveling to Brighton that

1546
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,360
Monday morning he remained at Park Lodge

1547
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,800
and put poison in the

1548
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:22,960
decanter my husband killed Josiah persal

1549
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:25,560
he killed him he killed him I am

1550
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,560
innocent

1551
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:35,679
sir he's guilty Simon tell him tell

1552
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:39,120
him my

1553
01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:41,040
dear I cannot do

1554
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,199
that

1555
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:47,159
Simon Simon for

1556
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:48,560
me for us leave me alone Simon won't you

1557
01:11:47,159 --> 01:11:51,960
save

1558
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:54,440
me on the morning of 12th of March

1559
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,840
Howard chroma was with me in my my

1560
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:59,120
Chambers he had come to consult me about

1561
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,199
the blackmail which Miriam had confided

1562
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:03,560
to him at the

1563
01:12:00,199 --> 01:12:05,400
weekend I Clark will confirm no it isn't

1564
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,000
true don't believe him they plotted this

1565
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,360
between them can't you understand they

1566
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,360
made me confess so that Howard could

1567
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:13,400
Escape they promised I be pardoned it

1568
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:15,120
promised that I believe Ma you expected

1569
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,400
to be

1570
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,719
pardoned but you should have heeded Mr

1571
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,000
allingham's advice and said nothing left

1572
01:12:19,719 --> 01:12:22,960
us to draw

1573
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,440
conclusions Mr allingham would not have

1574
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,600
told us that you husband had an alibi

1575
01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:27,719
until you were

1576
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:31,159
pardoned but youve now forced it from

1577
01:12:27,719 --> 01:12:34,360
him by accusing your husband of

1578
01:12:31,159 --> 01:12:36,920
murder you wanted too much out of this a

1579
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:38,800
pardon and your husband's conviction the

1580
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,840
charge of murder against Howard chromer

1581
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:44,199
would never stick Mr allingham knows

1582
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,840
it the purpose of the plan was to raise

1583
01:12:44,199 --> 01:12:46,920
enough doubts in our minds to secure

1584
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,920
your

1585
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,920
release how could I have unlocked the

1586
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,440
poison cabinet with no key use desire

1587
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,400
peral's key I asked him for it did I and

1588
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:55,800
he handed me the means of his

1589
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,199
destruction that is in effect what

1590
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,880
happened mom except that it wasn't the

1591
01:12:58,199 --> 01:13:01,679
poison cabinet you said you wanted to

1592
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:03,639
unlock it was the shiffer where the

1593
01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:05,679
decanters were kept your husband was out

1594
01:13:03,639 --> 01:13:07,639
when the wine arrived so you borrowed

1595
01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:09,159
peral's key to unlock it an innocent

1596
01:13:07,639 --> 01:13:11,080
sounding request which he was unlikely

1597
01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:14,480
to refuse seeing that he was partial to

1598
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:16,120
madira peral's keys were on a ring on

1599
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:18,679
that ring was also the key to the poison

1600
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,520
cabinet I return the keys to him after

1601
01:13:18,679 --> 01:13:21,960
unlocking the Shian here without the key

1602
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,760
to the poison cabinet which you had

1603
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,080
slipped off the ring then how do you

1604
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,280
explain that the key of the poison

1605
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,600
cabinet was found on the key ring in

1606
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,520
peral's Pocket after he was dead it

1607
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,960
happened something like this when you

1608
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:35,280
returned to park lodge you found the

1609
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:36,520
doctor there and Peril dead you still

1610
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,960
had the key in your possession when the

1611
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,159
doctor asked to look in the cabinet you

1612
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,520
were clever enough to tell him that the

1613
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:45,360
keys were in P's pocket you removed them

1614
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,520
and handed them to you to open the

1615
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,360
cabinet you held them in your palm in

1616
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,400
such a way that the loose key appeared

1617
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,360
to be attached to the ring as you turned

1618
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,760
the

1619
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:57,159
lock while the doctor was examining the

1620
01:13:54,760 --> 01:14:00,040
poison bottles you coverly reattached

1621
01:13:57,159 --> 01:14:01,360
the key to the ring the doctor himself

1622
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:04,320
returned the bunch to the Dead Man's

1623
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:06,480
Pocket but it was found when the police

1624
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,320
arrived I don't suggest you acted as you

1625
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:10,040
did in order to incriminate your

1626
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,360
husband the time you were only

1627
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,639
interested in contriving the appearance

1628
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,760
of a

1629
01:14:12,639 --> 01:14:17,480
suicide when that became

1630
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:19,560
impossible the other plan was worked

1631
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:21,960
out a

1632
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:24,560
gamble had the strategy succeeded and

1633
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,840
had you received a pardon

1634
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,600
we couldn't even have brought a charge

1635
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:33,120
of perjury later not for one syllable of

1636
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:33,120
that confession it was absolutely

1637
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:39,480
true thank you

1638
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,480
M for hearing me

1639
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:43,560
out leave

1640
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,280
me pleas

1641
01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:00,800
me stay away from

1642
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:05,159
here and

1643
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:08,960
tell stay away get out get out get

1644
01:15:05,159 --> 01:15:08,960
out no

1645
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,800
no mam chroma needed something quite

1646
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,920
remarkable to save her from The

1647
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,639
Gallows I believe allingham and chroma

1648
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,360
set up the whole scheme with Howard on

1649
01:15:18,639 --> 01:15:22,320
the run like a guilty man we would have

1650
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,719
to obtain an extradition order which

1651
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,639
meant we would have to arrange a pardon

1652
01:15:23,719 --> 01:15:27,679
for mam Cromer as soon as she was

1653
01:15:25,639 --> 01:15:29,000
pardoned Howard would surrender to the

1654
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:30,800
police he would announce that he had an

1655
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,040
alibi for the morning of the crime and

1656
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,960
Simon allingham would confirm it but

1657
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,040
that would confirm his wife's guilt

1658
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:40,600
Ultra

1659
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:42,880
convict I beg a pardon oh don't you have

1660
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,840
friender a legal expression dating by

1661
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,239
the common law a person cannot be tried

1662
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,760
twice for the same crime even if we knew

1663
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:50,480
mam chroma was a murderous and brought

1664
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,719
her up before a magistrate she could

1665
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:56,080
plead order convict and walk out a free

1666
01:15:52,719 --> 01:15:59,600
woman I am aware of the law Sergeant it

1667
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:03,280
was the terminology which escaped me yes

1668
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:06,199
sir very cunning idea sir not easy to

1669
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:09,639
unravel oh didn't you think so

1670
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:12,239
sergeant and uh what about Judith

1671
01:16:09,639 --> 01:16:15,000
Hut oh I believe Miriam chroma murdered

1672
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:19,120
her just like she murdered peral

1673
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:20,520
sir two murders eh well at that time she

1674
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:24,719
was determined to get Howard chroma for

1675
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:26,679
herself sir Sergeant I salute you I

1676
01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:29,360
believe we have played our cards

1677
01:16:26,679 --> 01:16:29,360
extremely

1678
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:35,679
well Toby did you ever really think that

1679
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,679
she was

1680
01:16:36,199 --> 01:16:39,440
innocent well I'm always inclined to

1681
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,719
give a pretty woman the benefit of the

1682
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:41,719
doubts

1683
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:53,760
[Music]

1684
01:16:52,080 --> 01:17:22,190
are

1685
01:16:53,760 --> 01:17:26,540
[Music]

1686
01:17:22,190 --> 01:17:26,540
[Applause]

1687
01:17:32,050 --> 01:17:40,500
[Music]

1688
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:52,600
[Applause]

1689
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:55,000
[Music]

1690
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,000
we

1691
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,960
yeah


